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what a tragedy

This is blatant hypocracies on the part of the authorities as we all know it, there are far too many gay joints thriving in KL and yet hardly were they being raided for obvious reasons...anyway they don't pose any menace to the society, just a hangout place for the likes irrespective of their sexual orientation...just hope the minorities are being treated fairly and save us the harrassment going on with our lives here.

lagunabro, I shall not ask if you consider your horse the best ride you've had but surely any suggestion of you marrying it and it being the parent of your twins is a ridiculous one.

Shit! There we go again..... kuman never fails to deliver... -_-''

#27 in what ways do you mean changing course? repentance? hmmm...repentance for what and of what? try as you may but i believe that we are made out of God's image regardless. i may be wrong but i know my God...my God is never revengeful and my God doesn't demand me any repentance...repentance are for those who fool themselves and bow to the wrong,false God... my opinion...no hard feelings...XOXO Tesh

Methinks he doth protest too much. It has long been known that those who shout the loudest against gays usually have gay tendencies themselves. Those heteros who are confident and secure with their own sexuality have no problems with gays. Also for religion, read hypocracy.

This article struck me to the core. I'm a father, ex-Mormon and now an Anthiest. I was sent away to behaviour modification and church therapy for many years. The pressure was so intense that I attempted to take my life twice at age 40. NOW, I believe in being true to myself and work with gay-students at my high school, in teaching them that THEY ARE NORMAL and no religion, god or group of people have the right to tell them otherwise. I am so proud to be gay and couldn't imagine being anything else!

#20, I have read some of comments before and I would tell you that they always reek badly of internalized homphobia. Or it could that, as #22 wrote, you are one of 'the Religious Right/bigots who masquerade here as genuinely gay men and women...' In your defence of the extremist homophobes, you mentioned this: "To many heterosexuals, the notion of same gender relationships is as absurd to them, as beastiality is to us." I don't think you have accepted that this is a tactic that they use; they don't believe it themselves. Their other favourite tactic is to paint gay men as preying on unsuspecting young boys. One most important point that has been missed, by the others as well, is the operative word in adult same sex relationships: CONSENT. You can scream that argument till you are blue in the face at those extremists, but they will never budge from their position. Wanna know why? Because it is a TACTIC to they use to good effect. And you are one of their victims. Adult heterosexual relationships are consensual ones; so are adult same sex relationships. Not rape involving members of any sex, sex with a child - informed consent on the part of the child - nor bestiality. Everything else is moot.

Falwell is dead. Robertson has been discredited. Evangelical means "bearer of good news". Being saved means "having repented", or, "having changed course". How many times have any of us changed course in our lives? I'll tell you, when we learn we are headed for a cliff and decide to stand on the brakes. When I see a problem with anything and decide to whip the wheel over. So many people in this world see nothing but pleasure for themselves, but then got wise and changed course. Stopping gambling, stopping spending stopping everything beyond their means. Is there anything wrong with having "repented", or, changing course, having gotten the means by the good news, before you really hose it up? I don't see the wrong with such a thing. Brian

Hey, I know Rachael Maddow and she can intellectually take down lots of politicians and ask probing questions to get to the truth. She's also a great horse rider and great at women's polo. You guys should get her to play at your next Shanghai Tang women's tournament. She 's great fun at the dinner table too. Anyway, horses are great fun but just as expensive a pursuit as boyfriends. Do you know how much just renting a stall is at the Singapore Polo Club? Its a major financial commitment like paying for tuition for your kids at a private school. Horses need love and care too and I wouldn't rule out the relationship that exists between a man and this beast. "My horse, my horse, my kingdom for a horse!" I've cast off many boyfriends to the wind given my pursuit of Polo and Horses. If I guy can't ride a horse, he's pretty much toast. Plus, we have excellent thigh muscles and abs. I don't know where Sylvia Tan gets these crappy articles -- she's always trying to make Jews and Christians and Muslims look extreme and bad and present negative news about the far flung right who do not represent us. Every other day she is bashing Jews, Christians, Muslims and associating us with extreme elements like Rory the crazy guy. I mean why not more positive articles about gay bishops getting elected in the Episcl. church where major breakthroughs are being made or something positive for once. Instead she is focused on negative news about gay men all the time like us getting arrested in saunas in far flung places. It is a common delusion that you make things better by talking about them. Instead you create a stupid media frenzy and give these kooks a pulpit. That's why my friends (and advertisers) are all flocking to the more happy news at Trevvy these days. A few of us are thinking about setting up our own cool, gay men's portal along the lines of www. beautifulpeople.com where you have to get approved by a panel and interviews before you are allowed access and actually have to have your pic verified. What happened to that more positive and happy lesbian editor Krristy Lam? She was such a hell of a lot more fun. Glad she got married to that smart lawyer Doris. The girls broods positivity and fun. I miss her. Can't you bring her back? Fridae news was a lot smarter and more fun. Watch Rachael Maddow's good spirited fight, she's smart but never too bitchy. I love her as much as I love my Polo ponies and glad she's a great ambassador of the sport and being gay too. By the law, there should be a fun raiser for Sylvia so she can start her own lesbian news 24 hour news channel promoting negative news about gay men (I mean when is the last time you saw an article about lesbians getting arrested?) Fridae is starting to lose its charm and its audience in the pursuit of something called online advocacy whether ever that means. Praise God for Planet Out:) I read it first thing in the morning and it always never ceases to put me in a good mood. Same issues, but better writing and insight.

I can't open the whole article on the external site, will try again later, but I do know the Lai Lai Dance Hall, and I went there in January when I was visiting Shanghai (I'm from London). It's something very surprising and unusual, for a tourist anyway, to find a very large crowd of middle-aged men all dancing together to a live band. There were literally hundreds of people packed in there. As a foreigner I was welcome, but no-one asked me to dance! I would very strongly recommend that any gay visitor to Shanghai takes time out to visit. Fun, campy, surprising and a treat.

If you only watched Real Sex on HBO or Girls Gone Wild, and had never met any straight people, you be convinced that they're all deviants too. The most extreme always get the most attention. And we tend to form opinions about people we don't know from such images. Its not all accurate. Most gay people live private, normal, monogamous lives. And most are very against doing anything that would oppose or limit what others do in the bedroom, since we have been the victims of exactly that sort of oppression. But many straight people have no such reticence. Straight transvestites don't make it into straight parades. So even what extreme straight sexual imagery that you see is a very limited sample. Most is suppressed. So, I really doubt gay people are any more "deviant" than straight people. We should really stop thinking that.

Marriage is a contract. Animals cannot enter into contracts. These fools will pull out whatever argument they think will work, regardless of whether they make any sense or even contradict one another. One minute they say gay sex is unnatural. If you point out that it is quite common amongst animals, they will exclaim that we are not animals. As soon as one argument collapses, they hop to the next one. This is not how a rational person brings anyone closer to the truth of an issue.

Another case of closet faggots in denial. Get a real life already!

"Most gay people out there are so deviant and their lifestyle is not so different than animals. It's ridiculous those gays ... demand respect and recognition from public. What a bunch of idiotic rebellious cry-babies" Spoken like a true, err... well... bigot, actually. Of course, for all I know, most of you ARE a bunch of Deviants - lord knows, it's been a while since I tried fucking a baby on top of an upside-down crucifix, whilst sniffing women's panties and laughing at news footage of starving people - but I'll assume that, people being people, most gay people are just like most Straight people - perfectly straightforward, moral, boring, decent and - well, you know, Normal. Just like Me. I really hate the Religious Right/bigots who masquerade here as genuinely gay men and women, who face enough intolerance, injustice and disrespect at the best of times without turning on each other to call others 'deviants'. After all, it's easier to think that there are Fake members here, like that, than to consider the awful alternative - that some gay people genuinely DO believe that 'most' others are 'deviants'. An alarming viewpoint indeed...

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Civil unions do NOT have the same legal protections as a marriage, check your facts! #10. You claim that "most gay people out there are so deviant and their lifestyle is not so different than animals." What gay people are you talking about? People that go to the clubs? I don't think you were referring to them, because your profile says you don't go to the clubs. And not all people that go to the clubs fit into your stereotype. So you're talking about people that don't go to the clubs I must assume. How many of them do you know as friends or acquaintances? My friends' lifestyle is not like that. So before you make a sweeping, demeaning generalization, THINK! I hope you are capable of that, since you said you are well-educated.

While I do not specifically agree with the analogies put forth by some politicians, they are conceptually right to the point that if lawmakers or courts can redefine marriage to suit the needs of same gender relations, then others can request to do the same to meet their needs. To many heterosexuals, the notion of same gender relationships is as absurd to them, as beastiality is to us. Words have meaning and according to my dictionary marriage is defined as follows: Function: noun Etymology: Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry Date: 14th century 1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law So why get hung up over this issue? Why do WE care what our relationships are called, as long as we are happy with our partner and can secure the same legal protections for ourselves. I vote for civil unions ( which many surveys indicate broader society more readily accepts) I think there are bigger and more important battles to engage society in today than fighting over a word.

Totally agree with Brian Storming re. the comments of ronmac. Has ronmac ever been to China? It astounds me that whilst living in a so called civilised country , country guilty of massive genocide of its own native population , ronmac has the hide to point the finger at China. " I once pointed my finger at one who had fallen along life's way , and as I looked , what did I see ? Three of my fingers pointing at me." I lived my gay life in China btw., and will always remember the happiest years of my life there.

Stupid, yes, but stupid people are scary when they band together. We had eight years of them governing the US and they damn near destroyed civilization. And judging by the receptions Sarah Palin is getting, and the activities of Republican politians, they are not done yet.